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Title: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Sang17 on August 27, 2013, 11:37:24 PM
http://megafun.vn/tin-tuc/nghe-thuat/hau-truong/201308/maria-ozawa-nhiem-hiv-chi-la-tin-don-286055/ (http://megafun.vn/tin-tuc/nghe-thuat/hau-truong/201308/maria-ozawa-nhiem-hiv-chi-la-tin-don-286055/)

http://giaitri.6giosang.com/giai-tri/su-that-ve-tin-don-nu-dien-vien-phim-cap-3-maria-ozawa-bi-nhiem-hiv-490865.html (http://giaitri.6giosang.com/giai-tri/su-that-ve-tin-don-nu-dien-vien-phim-cap-3-maria-ozawa-bi-nhiem-hiv-490865.html)

Some dudes are getting emergency screening for HIV.

I guess she not comin out VN no more.

no, i didn't know of her before.
but my cousin in vn is a fan of her for sure lol
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: thungrongkeuto on August 28, 2013, 12:16:33 AM
Is it absolutely confirmed?  I can't imagine how they can write articles like this without being absolutely sure..

I know of her and I never even watched her films, actually.  She's quite infamous if you're familiar with Japanese pop culture at all.  I wish her well.  Even if it is true, nowadays medication can allow people with HIV to live long lives. 
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Campylobacter jejuni on August 28, 2013, 06:04:25 AM
I'll wait for an official confirmation.

Except that I probably won't notice since I don't really read porn news.

It would be very unfortunate though.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Tonkinese on August 28, 2013, 07:49:37 AM
many vietnamese consider MO as an angel LOL
they are afraid of being HIV infected through internet or monitor screen  :))
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: lalapaluza on August 28, 2013, 08:03:11 AM
wow, I'm impressed at your "superior" and "vast" knowledge of the porn industry  :p - Just kidding.

I learned a new word today "AV".

A while back in California they were trying to pass a law that require porn actors to wear condoms. Didn't pass. But I think most places (brothels in Las Vegas for exammple, porn companies) do require testing every six months or they can't work.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: lalapaluza on August 28, 2013, 08:07:31 AM
Also I don't know how I came across this news, some German singer Nadja Benaissa (mixed race Maroccan and German), had sex with multiple men and infected two of them (?) while knowing her positive status. She never told them of her status. She was sentenced to two years in jail and community service.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: thungrongkeuto on August 28, 2013, 08:13:41 AM
I think all porn actors are required to get tested regularly...but even then there's a window period where HIV may not be detected (it can be up to 6 months!), so it's still extremely risky.  The whole porn industry is incredibly seedy and I'm no prude...There were a lot of rumors that after the recession, many of these Japanese AV actresses were forced to prostitute themselves out to wealthy fans in clubs.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Campylobacter jejuni on August 28, 2013, 10:18:14 AM
Considering that's the job they signed up for anyway I find it hard to be disturbed by that, if it's even true. I don't think they're contractually obliged by anyone to do that since female porn actresses are generally more independent as successful sex workers usually are.


I hope no one here thinks that porn watchers are primarily sweaty fatties from the realm of Acnesia.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: lalapaluza on August 28, 2013, 01:34:43 PM
The money is good that's for sure but I wonder sometimes if people in the sex industry (mainly in developed countries where people are not suffering from abject poverty) actually are addicted to sex. Take the Maria girl case for example (I only googled her today b/c of this thread), it sounded like she was really set to get a career in the porn industry. At age 13 already sexually active and not only that was very pre-occupied with sex. Then later on appeared to be actually seeking for  a career in the industry. This could all be sensational claims designed to bolster her porn stature but anyway that's what's known publicly.

I hardly believe anyobody would aspire to this career unless you're somewhat miswired in the head. Rich or poor, I can't imagine anyone telling their kid, "Study hard so you could be a famous porn star someday!" yeah, can' you imgine that! And then the performance aspect of it. How can you actually maintain arousal in front of cameras and a crowd of people directing your moves. AND you must be on meth or something b/c how can you have sex on demand. EEWWW, and the risk of picking up all kinds of nasty STD's.

All you need to do to scare your kids from porn is show them STD books with high quality illustrations. Eeekkkkkk!!!!
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Campylobacter jejuni on August 28, 2013, 02:31:37 PM
The money is good that's for sure but I wonder sometimes if people in the sex industry (mainly in developed countries where people are not suffering from abject poverty) actually are addicted to sex. Take the Maria girl case for example (I only googled her today b/c of this thread), it sounded like she was really set to get a career in the porn industry. At age 13 already sexually active and not only that was very pre-occupied with sex. Then later on appeared to be actually seeking for  a career in the industry. This could all be sensational claims designed to bolster her porn stature but anyway that's what's known publicly.

I hardly believe anyobody would aspire to this career unless you're somewhat miswired in the head. Rich or poor, I can't imagine anyone telling their kid, "Study hard so you could be a famous porn star someday!" yeah, can' you imgine that! And then the performance aspect of it. How can you actually maintain arousal in front of cameras and a crowd of people directing your moves. AND you must be on meth or something b/c how can you have sex on demand. EEWWW, and the risk of picking up all kinds of nasty STD's.

All you need to do to scare your kids from porn is show them STD books with high quality illustrations. Eeekkkkkk!!!!
13 is not that strange an age to be sexually active. Sex addiction as a clinical disorder with all the proper symptoms is definitely an overblown, if not factually wrong, concept. Of course some people love to indulge in sex and do it whenever the opportunity arises. I can totally understand that though, evne if personally I would want to make sure to keep the STD risk at a minimum, but I understand some people embrace risk as a part of life or simply can't or don't care to calculate it.

That's also one of the only two reasons why I decided not to go down that road myself, the other being the bad pay for men.  :p I wouldn't call myself or them miswired. I find it a career as valid as any other. Many jobs carry risks, heck even just driving to your job in your car carries a risk, and it's not an insignificant one. If people find this one is the most fun, it's fine. I wouldn't drive my kids towards it -though i wouldn't drive them towards anything specific- , but if one of them ever wanted it, I would support them as with any other job.

At least as a porn actor you're not at risk of being crushed to a pulpy crimson mess by an excavator. STDs are not the end of the world and in the grand scheme of things a relatively manageable misfortune, especially in the first world.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: lalapaluza on August 28, 2013, 05:07:15 PM
I don't know. I'm not a moralist and straightlaced wallflower by any stretch and certainly would not look down on people who have to to this to survive but this is not just ANY career. It is just so personal. these people do have partners/spouse but to keep the two separated is very difficult. Would you be OK with your gf or wife doing this or working in a legitimate brothel even?  Even doing pole dancing or strip dancing wouldn't have the same impact (although it's not hard to cross over for many of these people). 

13 and having sex, not unusual you say! I think it's on the far end of the bell curve. Good Lawd! my 13 yo kid would be looking at the 48 STD's you can get, not the 48 positions. Sex is wonderful but there's a right place and the right age for it.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Campylobacter jejuni on August 28, 2013, 05:27:54 PM
When I said I would be a-ok with marrying a prostitute I meant it. Not only due to the aforementioned, but also because I don't have any problem with that at all and find it arousing, bar the STD risk. I'm a little pervert, as you may have noticed.

In particular your assumption is incorrect, which you may not be aware of though since you probably never gave it much thought, so it's understandable. After a while they are so routined that sex with their clients really DOES boil down to a mere contractual obligation -of course expertly executed-, except in case of sympathy, where anything up to falling in love and even abandoning the profession for him is still possible, so obviously they don't get emotionally numb either. But even that doesn't mean a notable competitive disadvantage for me. There are several professions where you are exposed to a host of different people of the opposite sex, and where you will get to meet many of them rather often. I would probably not be more endangered by competitors than the husband of e.g. a server or account manager.

I've been sexually active in elementary school, and I'm not the only one I can tell you. And it's not always with adults (it wasn't for me). And they don't always force it, sometimes they don't even start it. There's a wrong time for sex, but it's not dictated by age. Some did it in kindergarten and normally don't suffer from it, despite falsehoods spread by vengeful abuse victims and moralist lobby "scientists".
13 is actually just slightly below the German average, which I think was 15.something.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: lalapaluza on August 28, 2013, 05:39:30 PM
Maybe it's a European thing, here's it's sexual abuse. Believe me, it can mess up a person royally. 

I think it's a bit different when you wife has sex rather than balance the speadsheet with her co-workers.  When you take an argument to the extreme like that then there really is no argument b/c there's no consideration for everything that makes humans human you see.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Campylobacter jejuni on August 28, 2013, 05:52:10 PM
It's not really a European thing. It's a worldwide thing, but most people who agree with me just don't talk about it, don't ask me why. I am not talking about sexual abuse. Pre-adolescent sexual experiences are not per se abusive or in itself harmful. That is just plain wrong. That would mean that children are per se retarded.
"Oh man, this otherwise perfectly enjoyable sex I'm having right now is with an adult, that's in itself the worst thing that could ever happen to me even though I completely lack the sexual development to think of it as a special act for special people whom I find attractive! I want to die!"

I don't think that lowly of children, and the data supports me (if collected and evaluated methodically well).

Actually I know a guy who repeatedly clashes with a victim of early-teen sexual abuse because of heavy disagreements on how to treat paedophiles and intergenerational sexual contact, and he happens to have had sex with several people before his adolescence, and he doesn't regret one thing. He's not a special case and not the only guy I personally know who regularly clashes with "rescuers".

Sexual abuse of minors and sexual activity with minors is as complicated as any other human interaction. Reducing it to "a crime with no victim" or on the opposite "a murder of the soul" is both unethical and irresponsible.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: thungrongkeuto on August 28, 2013, 06:09:12 PM
Oy vey....



 -worried
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Campylobacter jejuni on August 28, 2013, 06:10:35 PM
Yeah yeah, I know, I am deluded and should seek help. :p
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: lalapaluza on August 28, 2013, 06:13:39 PM
Well, it's cultural and I don't know how to explain other than when we say something is European, we means it's liberal. Can sound offensive but probably b/c Europeans tend to have a more open attitude about sex.  American society is more conservative but I like like that really b/c I think children should be children first. There's plenty of time to be adults later. And since I grew up with the attitude that sex with children is just wrong, I don't see any merit in it. BUT, I do see when the situation is fuzzy and not black and white. For example, an older "child" say, 16 or older decides to have sex with adult that is not his/her spouse, it is considered sexual abuse. In reality a 16 yo, while emotionally somewhat immature, she/he is more capable of making these decisions than say, a 13 yo who is likely to be more childlike in her thinking and behavior.

I cana't speak for Asian society b/c my family is ultra conservative so I can't use them as a gage for the general Vietnamse society. Other Asian cultures I can't speak for b/c it's Asia is more diverse and it's a subject I havn'et looked into.

I have one dear European friend so I do know something about it. Certainly not to the extend you do b/c you grew up there.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Campylobacter jejuni on August 28, 2013, 06:40:28 PM
Well they don't usually share my view on this. All the ones I know realise it's okay down to teenager years, but beyond that almost everyone disagrees, sometimes with a passion.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Campylobacter jejuni on August 29, 2013, 06:36:49 AM
It was with a boy as a play comrade. It was actually three of us but the third one wasn't really interested and kind of passive. -shrug

I don't even remember when I started to ejaculate. I distinctly remember trying to dole one out in the bathtub, but got disappointed that it didn't feel so good in there, and it was in early elementary. I don't know if I had an orgasm or if something even came out, but probably not!
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: LanLan on August 29, 2013, 11:25:49 AM
Maybe it's a European thing, here's it's sexual abuse. Believe me, it can mess up a person royally. 

I think it's a bit different when you wife has sex rather than balance the speadsheet with her co-workers.  When you take an argument to the extreme like that then there really is no argument b/c there's no consideration for everything that makes humans human you see.

It's not a Europe thing believe me, maybe Germany and so Netherland thing, but buying sex in Norway is a crime. kids nowdays learn to fast so when we were 13 and barely knew how to kiss then kids nowdays know how to have sex at the age of 13, sad? heck yeah!


But heey I agree with u Dauhu -thumbsup  I can understand myself on really poor girl which has no other way to make money or girls who are forced to do it, that I feel sorry for them, but come on porn as a job career I don't know but in my oppinion then I think you look to much down on sex, sex is suppose to be a special gifts so when u just do it to do it like that and not to say as a job then it is sad.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Campylobacter jejuni on August 29, 2013, 11:48:25 AM
It has only been criminalised in Norway in hopes of protecting prostitutes, trying to emulate the flawed Swedish model, but noone less than a conservative MP argued for its retraction a while ago, mostly because it's dumb (the great thing about Norwegian politics is that they're generally more pragmatic than in most other places).

I don't know if they silently retracted it since then or if they're not so pragmatic after all.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: LanLan on August 29, 2013, 12:28:58 PM
It has only been criminalised in Norway in hopes of protecting prostitutes, trying to emulate the flawed Swedish model, but noone less than a conservative MP argued for its retraction a while ago, mostly because it's dumb (the great thing about Norwegian politics is that they're generally more pragmatic than in most other places).

I don't know if they silently retracted it since then or if they're not so pragmatic after all.

Depends on who is winning in this parlament votes this year. Norway is really splitted, well I still think they rather should find a way to forbid prostitution, but ohh well this world is fucked up anyways so nothing we do can help.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: NT on August 30, 2013, 11:46:10 AM
Something like this made the news, serves as an indication that Vietnamese society has become more and more, I fear, far way from nature.

There are two  aspect of love sentiments; the moral and physical.  The physical aspect is the general desire which inclines one sex to unite with another, thus any woman will suits his purpose.  He only pays attention  to the temperament he has received from nature and not the taste  he has unable to acquire.

The moral aspect  is  this desire that fixed on a single object, born of social custom, extolled by women with so much skills and care in order to establish their hegemony and make dominant of the sex that ought to obey.  Since man in society has lost his innocence and ignorance which stir up the feelings and increase the difficulties of satisfying it. Now we have men sitting on their computer watching porn, fantasizing , fixate on the object they so desired. Their imagination which wreck so much havoc, however, this does not speak to savage man’s heart. You will never find me gossiping,, arguing about tastes, and post picture of random women that he so fixated on with  desire. No no no, not I, the savage man.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Campylobacter jejuni on August 30, 2013, 12:53:27 PM
lol
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Qu Đơn on March 15, 2014, 08:09:02 AM
do you guys think Sola Aoi is hot? Chinese netizens seem to like her the most. I WONDER WHY.

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Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: lalapaluza on March 16, 2014, 02:31:26 PM
I assume she's a porn actress? Pretty but nothing special. Maybe it's her acting skill.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: gaden on March 16, 2014, 09:45:14 PM
She would look good in a kimono instead of a bikini.

Of course she would then take off the kimono into a bikini.
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Sang17 on March 28, 2014, 07:50:51 AM
(http://sc.haivl.com/data/photos2/20140327/3f95831e454b45c8bd70c94a44be4f35/medium-0d7f48bc1a05441f882f6281a5cc968e-650.jpg)
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: Master Addict Anonymous on March 30, 2014, 02:26:35 AM
she suckin too many pencil thats why
Title: Re: Word on the street porn actress Maria Ozawa HIV infected
Post by: ArnoldZ on March 30, 2014, 09:57:41 AM
Wow. I still didn't know this today  :))