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Ngoc lan (Michelia Champaca) tree
« on: April 15, 2018, 01:54:09 PM »
My ngoc lan tree died this year under a hard freeze.  I planted it maybe 15 years ago and it has survived through various freezes in th epast but didn't make it this year.  So, I'm looking for a new tree.  I looked and saw that they have seeds for ngoc lan on ebay.  So I bought some seeds and they will ship it from Hong Kong.  Anyone know if Ngoc lan will sprout from seeds?


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Re: Ngoc lan (Michelia Champaca) tree
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2018, 02:27:47 PM »
I dug up my ngoc lan tree.  The stump looks like this.




I'm going to turn it into an art piece like the 'white tree of Gondor'.  I'll create it into a piece of worship and reverence.


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Re: Ngoc lan (Michelia Champaca) tree
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2018, 09:32:50 AM »
Is this flower (Michelia Champaka) the same as Champa flower that are common grown in all over South Asia to SouthEast Asia?

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Re: Ngoc lan (Michelia Champaca) tree
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2018, 02:58:43 PM »
The chapaca tree is native to the Indomalaya ecozone, consisting of South Asia, Southeast Asia, and southern China.

I have the white flower variety, .  I believe it is the most fragrant of all varieties.


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Re: Ngoc lan (Michelia Champaca) tree
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2018, 01:04:34 AM »
The chapaca tree is native to the Indomalaya ecozone, consisting of South Asia, Southeast Asia, and southern China.

I have the white flower variety, .  I believe it is the most fragrant of all varieties.



Why the Chams namwd themselves abd kingdom as "Champa" in South-Central VietNam?

"Champaca" is well-known as "Cempaka" in Indonesia and Malaya.

In Filipino, it is called "Tsampakang".

In Minang Kabau of Sumatra (part of Malaysian dialects) is called "Champo".

"Champa" is said to be derived from Indian Vedic-Sanskrit: चम्पक
 "Champaka"

The plant is common vegetations in South Asia, SouthEast Asia and South China.
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Re: Ngoc lan (Michelia Champaca) tree
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2018, 09:02:54 AM »
I'm not sure why the Chams would reference themselves to the Champaca tree, because the champaca tree would have more relevance in Buddhism.  Chams are first Hindu then Muslim.

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In Theravada Buddhism, champaca is said to have used as the tree for achieved enlightenment, or Bodhi by seventeenth Lord Buddha called "Aththadassi - අත්ථදස්සි". According to Tibetan beliefs, the Buddha of the next era will find enlightenment under the white flower canopy of the champaca tree.

 
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