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Vietnam War from the North Vietnamese Perspective
« on: September 24, 2021, 06:11:41 PM »
It's probably good to look at the Vietnam war from the perspective of North VN. 

A few things I notice:

-  The Viet Minh has no political clout for sovereignty.
-  HCM believes in patriotism first before communism.
-  Because of HCH's ties to communism the US cannot back VN under communism.
-  France wanted to take back control of VN,  the US has to back France mostly because of ideology.
-  Diem is does not intend to reunite.



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Re: Vietnam War from the North Vietnamese Perspective
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2021, 06:28:33 PM »
I watched this a while ago. Luna oi the commie chick made a debunk video lolol


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Re: Vietnam War from the North Vietnamese Perspective
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2021, 07:11:01 PM »
The armchair historian guy only touches the surface level knowledge of it. You can sense some of his american style sources despite saying the "NV perspective".

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-  Because of HCH's ties to communism the US cannot back VN under communism.

Yea. By this time, Ho Chi Minh was a full fledged communist trained by the Soviets and had Chinese advisors. But what's interesting is that the OSS (CIA) had supported Ho Chi Minh during Japanese occupation. He was also commie here but on a smaller scale and I thunk the US only supported the Viet Minh to destabilize the Japanese. I think the US missed out big time on making friends with HCM. Truman and Woodrow ignored HCM's letters for assistance and collaboration. And then during the 54 Geneva Convention, the Ho Chi Minh was full buddies with Soviet and China. US couldn't get HCM as a puppet so Ngo Dinh Diem was chosen. That's not to say NDD was all bad though.

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-  France wanted to take back control of VN,  the US has to back France mostly because of ideology.

I'd say half of it was ideology. US wanted France as an ally so they supported the French, this was after WW2 so being buddy buddies was ideal. And degaulle who was president of French at the time was discontent with the US.


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-  Diem is does not intend to reunite

Yea. In the 1954 Geneva Convention, when the North and South had split (thanks to china and US), there was an option for a reunification by voting using ballots. Ngo Dinh Diem rigged it with US help for:
1. Stay in power as US puppet
2. US has a foothold right near commie china
3. Diem didn't want the commies to control Vietnam because of the mass killings they did for their land reform

A lot of people say he was corrupt and evil like killing militant monks and brutally massacring civilians (VC spies) and had the whole of SV distrusting him.
I don't know if any of that is true but he did make some good reforms like promoting education.


You are also forgetting one thing:

It is because he was Asian.

White people still looked down on Asians and so HCM wasn't taken seriously. Why should some colonized peon lower being come up to me begging for my help? I am superior to you. That's what they were thinking. That's why he was ignored. The Viet Minh had filled the vacuum of power left by the Japanese, so basically control of Vietnam.

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Re: Vietnam War from the North Vietnamese Perspective
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2021, 04:35:30 PM »
The armchair guy probably didn't present it in the VC perspective.  He should have just grabbed any VC and let them tell the story instead of presenting a little bit of his own perception of what VCs might think.  VCs will pretty much sum up the war in one or two sentences:  Western imperialists pigs and brave  VCs with high morals won war all by themselves fighting with sticks and leaves.  VCs have a very limited view and never have a broader perspective of the cold war with the major players of China, Russia and the US fighting for world domination.  They'll never see that VCs are puppets.


VCs will claim that HCM was always communist,  but why would he ask of US help and copy the US constitution?

The US came into the war probably with their head really high thinking that it's an easy probably.


 
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