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Offline 大越

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Vietnam has no slums
« on: October 27, 2015, 04:28:30 PM »
Slums are prevalent in major cities in many developing countries across Asia, Africa, and central and South America. Vietnam is an exception to this. Why is that?

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/aug/11/hanoi-slums-vietnam-urban-planning-construction
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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2015, 04:58:35 PM »
Vietnam golly doesn't smell.

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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2015, 07:48:34 PM »
Slums are prevalent in major cities in many developing countries across Asia, Africa, and central and South America. Vietnam is an exception to this. Why is that?

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/aug/11/hanoi-slums-vietnam-urban-planning-construction

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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2015, 07:53:12 PM »
would you swim in this water??



Nice try. That's an old photo. They since cleaned the place up.
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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2015, 07:57:13 PM »
i think its easier for homogenous nations to work together than multicultural ones.

look at rome. they were a pure race. they conquered because they were of one blood, one race, one mind. they only declined once they became filled with other races.

look at china, they are still pure. look at japan and korea. even north korea works like a team because they are of pure superior blood. purity is strength. if korea was multi cultural with muslims and....indians and.....who knows what, it couldnt achieve what it has done for a small nation.

the racial purity of these people gives the the advantage of caring for their nation and people. in  Korean there is the word  minjok. it has the same meaning as the word  Volk in german.
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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2015, 08:00:00 PM »
I think it boils down to cultural values. The values that a society holds determine their actions.
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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2015, 08:05:41 PM »

Nice try. That's an old photo. They since cleaned the place up.

they cleaned up in a year??

Dude its okayto admit Vietnam has some places you are not so proud about

Im not proud of Manila ....that doesnt mean Im trashing Philippines...I just call a spade a spade
Because even if Manila is a golly hole...at least my province is not


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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2015, 08:18:40 PM »
I believe it's mostly due to income equity and the culture of saving face, the aversion of the people to be lower class.  Even though income is low, it is more evenly distributed.  Also, social competition, strive to be better than your neighbor, gives the people that drive towards improvement.

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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2015, 10:41:44 AM »
prince V has turned into a ngjm.

of course VN has lots of slums, just google the terms. VN people are some of the worst litterers. I haven't been to other developing countries to tell. Prolly not unique in this respect but they are not noble and "face saving" poor people. Even Viet in the US tend not to care for public cleanliness. It's a bad attitude overall.

of course except for gaden, he picks up trash on the street.

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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2015, 01:48:13 PM »
It really is not that bad; just ordinary structured housing, not like cardboard and tin metal roofs.  My guess is that property prices has gone up, so the people sell their shanty homes to developers.

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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2015, 02:41:35 PM »
lol, these are not the slums I see when I google "slums in VN", full of trash and shacks made from aluminum sheets.


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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2015, 03:04:31 PM »
Probably search for the dates of those photos. 

Pictures like this is in 1998.

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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2015, 03:20:36 PM »
this pic from 2012
http://www.saigonist.com/vietnam/hcmc/ho-chi-minh-city-slums

tbh, the crowded streets, full of trash and electric wires everywhere look like slumps to me.

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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2015, 03:33:34 PM »
this pic from 2012
http://www.saigonist.com/vietnam/hcmc/ho-chi-minh-city-slums

tbh, the crowded streets, full of trash and electric wires everywhere look like slumps to me.

I believe that picture is in Manila, the author was making a reference to what he perceives as slums and he doesn't see that type of scene on Saigon, even though Saigon is poorer than Manila.

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The surprising thing is that in Ho Chi Minh City there's nowhere that I would especially consider a slum region.

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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2015, 05:08:22 PM »
prince V has turned into a ngjm.

of course VN has lots of slums, just google the terms. VN people are some of the worst litterers. I haven't been to other developing countries to tell. Prolly not unique in this respect but they are not noble and "face saving" poor people. Even Viet in the US tend not to care for public cleanliness. It's a bad attitude overall.

of course except for gaden, he picks up trash on the street.


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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2015, 05:09:46 PM »
this pic from 2012
http://www.saigonist.com/vietnam/hcmc/ho-chi-minh-city-slums

tbh, the crowded streets, full of trash and electric wires everywhere look like slumps to me.


The definition of slums are homes with no electricity and running water. There are lots of problems with Vietnam. Slums is not one of them.
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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2015, 07:26:19 PM »
I believe that picture is in Manila, the author was making a reference to what he perceives as slums and he doesn't see that type of scene on Saigon, even though Saigon is poorer than Manila.

I believe secret of the RoseS was correct
Look at the link of the pic
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Just_another_way_to_bath_%40_Saigon.jpg/640px-Just_another_way_to_bath_%40_Saigon.jpg

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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2015, 07:43:14 PM »
You could say the same thing with most SEA countries with exception of Laos, Cambodia, Burma

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Re: Vietnam has no slums
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2015, 08:42:04 PM »
I believe secret of the RoseS was correct
Look at the link of the pic
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Just_another_way_to_bath_@_Saigon.jpg/640px-Just_another_way_to_bath_@_Saigon.jpg

It could be of Saigon but not in 2012.   The slums along the Nhieu Loc-Thi Nghe  area which the author talked about  were razed in 1999. 

The resurrection of Nhieu Loc-Thi Nghe: How HCMC brought the black water canal back from the dead
http://www.thanhniennews.com/society/the-resurrection-of-nhieu-locthi-nghe-how-hcmc-brought-the-black-water-canal-back-from-the-dead-30431.html

Right now, that area looks like this.  I don't think they can accomplish all this in 3 years.



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