collapse

Author Topic: Do you think it's a good idea to prevent Westeners from being ripped off in VN?  (Read 1088 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline arrow

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 466
  • Karma: +3/-0
  • Gender: Male
    • Manganize Me
I wanted to write an app that would prevent Westeners and stupid Viet Kieus from being ripped off in Vietnam whenever they buy something.

On the one hand it's the right thing to do. On the other hand it's not that much money anyway. And the Vietnamese people are poor and need financial support.

Online gaden

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10656
  • Karma: +83/-9
  • Gender: Male
  • Mini Slum Lord
It's good to help tourists from being ripped off. That way, more tourists will get a better impression of Vietnam and they might come back and bring more tourists to help stimulate the economy.

There's so many people getting ripped off that Vietnam might be known as a nation of thieves. This blog talks about scams in Vietnam, http://www.backpackingtravelpages.com/scams-in-vietnam/.


There is a law to punish Taxis from overcharging tourists, http://www.thanhniennews.com/society/taxi-driver-gets-comeuppance-for-ripping-off-foreign-tourists-in-vietnamese-capital-24128.html.


Offline Qu Đơn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8351
  • Karma: +27/-15
The government rips off the people so the people rip off the tourists.  This is life in a repressive dictatorship like Vietnam and there´s nothing we can do about it. 

Offline Lavender

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6340
  • Karma: +59/-2
is this still going on?  there's no date on the article so it could be quite old

regardless, if you speak the language even when they know you're viet kieu less likely. I've never been cheated (that I know of :) over there b/c I always carried exact change and only used established taxi companies. I always haggled. it's really crazy you have to hangle to 1/4 of the price and still might pay too much. they can be aggressive and grab you if you pick up something and don't want to buy it. I just threw a tantrum and yelled back at them. 

Offline 大越

  • Vietnamese
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3178
  • Karma: +20/-45
  • Gender: Male
This is why I think Vietnam will not be a tourist destination like Thailand. Viets are cunning rather than nice. It’s ok though, it’s better to have the bedrock of your economy based on manufacturing and engineering rather than on serving and being a servant to foreigners.
I'm a fobulous fob


Offline Lavender

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6340
  • Karma: +59/-2
that's wrong. Nothing wrong with tourism since it is a income generator. And everyone can appreciate good customer service. It's not subservient it's smart.

you see when people associate aggressive, petty "smart" or as we call it "khon vat" as a highly valued quality its actually a low quality.

Online gaden

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10656
  • Karma: +83/-9
  • Gender: Male
  • Mini Slum Lord
I think for food and housing, expect to pay half of what you pay for here in the US.  For electronics and cars, expect to pay 30-40% more.

Offline literallyChina

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2681
  • Karma: +11/-52
  • Gender: Male
  • Bá-Khiêm
If they get "ripped off" isn't it still cheaper than what they would pay for in America?

Offline Lavender

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6340
  • Karma: +59/-2
yes, If you keep this in   mind then you wouldn't get  so  upset.

however, it's human psychology.  people don't like be pushed around or cheated.

Online gaden

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10656
  • Karma: +83/-9
  • Gender: Male
  • Mini Slum Lord
I think if they can provide better service they can raise prices and the foreigners wouldn't feel ripped off.  Or a better way would be just to list the price in plain clear sight so there's no need to haggle.  Charge foreigners double while making a secret deal with the locals with a cheaper price.

Offline Lavender

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6340
  • Karma: +59/-2
people are willing to pay more for good service. I don't think it's a good idea to have two tier system for prices. you can have a "bargain" level restaurant and a high end one with different price points. if the foreigners don't mind sitting on plastic stools in the ally they pay less. if go to a fancy restaurant pay more. 

Offline Qu Đơn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8351
  • Karma: +27/-15
A lot of people associate this price scheme with the Japanese but really it started in America.  Once made in USA consumer goods like Parker pens, Gilette razors and Ralph Lauren apparel all had a huge range.  They made products for college students and executives.  A lot of Japanese brands still try to maintain this as part of their branding.  As the middle class , and the associated social mobility, is shrinking around the developed world, this way of doing business will not be viable.  The poors today will not transition to the rich of tomorrow  We will continue to see more tiered pricing structures based on brand.  This explains why Seiko has Credor and Toyota has Lexus.





people are willing to pay more for good service. I don't think it's a good idea to have two tier system for prices. you can have a "bargain" level restaurant and a high end one with different price points. if the foreigners don't mind sitting on plastic stools in the ally they pay less. if go to a fancy restaurant pay more.

 
Name: Email:
Verification:
Type the letters shown in the picture
Listen to the letters / Request another image
Type the letters shown in the picture:
What is the previous name of Hochimich city?:

* Recent Posts

Observe the upper lip curvature by gaden
[Today at 07:56:32 PM]


Afc Vietnam team fuled by Vietnamese foods only next match w Jordan by gaden
[Today at 07:03:51 PM]


Vietnamese drama The Third Wife at Toronto Film Festival by Qu Đơn
[Today at 07:00:21 PM]


High IQ is genetic! by Qu Đơn
[Today at 06:53:39 PM]


I found my royal slingshot maker by gaden
[Today at 06:52:24 PM]


Custom knifemaker in Vietnam by Qu Đơn
[Today at 06:09:25 PM]


Sinosphere vs Indosphere: Animals by gaden
[Today at 04:07:30 PM]


This Vietnamese mormon chick wants to convert me by gaden
[Today at 04:01:45 PM]


Do cats eat mouse anymore? by gaden
[Today at 01:34:35 PM]


My fellow Asians standing up to whites by Strawberry&Rasberry
[Today at 01:33:35 PM]


Are these ao dai a throwback to the ao yem days? by Lavender
[Today at 07:48:36 AM]


Peniss specific moisturizer and deodorant anyone? by Lavender
[Today at 07:46:27 AM]


Who´s watching Jordan Vs Vietnam in the AFC? by Qu Đơn
[Today at 07:00:38 AM]


They don't see a wall so they keep coming by Strawberry&Rasberry
[Today at 02:23:24 AM]


I hope China nukes Vietnam by gaden
[Yesterday at 10:47:33 PM]


Made in Vietnam satellite enters orbit with the most retarded name by Qu Đơn
[Yesterday at 05:08:11 PM]


California is now at the forefront of high speed rail networking by Qu Đơn
[Yesterday at 04:52:34 PM]


I give this Vietnamese guy 2 years before he´s killed off in the African jungle by Qu Đơn
[Yesterday at 04:26:44 PM]


White surname but 75% Vietnamese by Qu Đơn
[Yesterday at 04:25:05 PM]


Hà Nội should move towards self-sufficiency in food by convoy
[Yesterday at 04:11:31 PM]


Thai foods haven´t gone upmarket but Vietnamese restaurants now charge a MORE by gaden
[Yesterday at 03:23:30 PM]


Do any of you own a bonsai banana tree? by gaden
[Yesterday at 01:14:09 PM]


If VCP is smart, now is the time to become friends with America by Crystalball
[Yesterday at 11:45:58 AM]


Thousands of Pinoys welcome Chinese naval ships by Qu Đơn
[Yesterday at 10:08:23 AM]


Crack in Duterte´s pro China gov: official fears China´s takeover of shipyard by Qu Đơn
[Yesterday at 10:04:20 AM]

* News Feeds

* snow 2