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Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« on: January 06, 2018, 10:27:28 AM »
“Surprisingly, the three smallest genetic distances for the 2,000-year-old Linzi population were from the present-day central Asian populations: the Kirghiz (Sary-Tash), followed by the Kazakh and the Uighurs. Even more surprisingly, the three smallest genetic distances for the 2,500-year-old Linzi population were from the Turkish, Icelander, and Finnish, rather than from the east Asian populations.”

“The similarity between the genetic structures of the 2,500-year-old Linzi population and the present-day European populations indicates that there was a genetic shift in the Linzi area from a European-like population to a population more like those found in present-day east Asia, probably caused by migration.”

https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/17/9/1396/994964?ijkey=e85f58c7c892c62

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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2018, 10:40:17 AM »
Linzi is in Shandong. The birthplace of Confucius is about 90 km from Linzi.

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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2018, 11:43:39 AM »
But then how would we know if they weren’t Kazakh-like invaders or settlers that perished? Were they buried in a fancy way (in a tomb, mummified, buried with treasures and robes etc) because that would suggest they were nobles. Unless they were seen as exotic “trophies” and needed to be buried as sacrifice items so that they will be present with the actual nobles in the afterlife.


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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2018, 11:46:39 AM »
But then how would we know if they weren’t Kazakh-like invaders or settlers that perished? Were they buried in a fancy way because that would suggest they were nobles. Unless they were seen as “trophies” and needed to be buried as sacrifice items so that they will be present with the actual nobles in the afterlife.

What about the progression from European in 500 BC, then to half-way European in 1 AD?

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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2018, 12:02:18 PM »
oh sucks!... 1 year ago... the neo-nazis from theapricity.com would be jumping from seats if they see it!!..


Aryan master race... LOL..


LOL... I use to love fighting the neo-nazis.. but the owner of the website turn Christian... all the Nazis left the website..

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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2018, 01:29:58 PM »
It’s ok though. Tang and Song Dynasties were great and very technologically innovative. By then they were all like modern Chinese.
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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2018, 01:54:13 PM »
Oh we’re not done yet. A more recent investigation relooked at this study.

https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/20/2/214/1003271

Here is their new conclusion:


“The reanalysis of two previously published ancient mtDNA population data sets from Linzi (same province) then indicates that the ancient populations had features in common with the modern populations from south China rather than any specific affinity to the European mtDNA pool.”

“The 2,500-year-old and especially the 2,000-year-old samples show closer affinity to the modern samples from the south than from the north, thus reflecting the trend in the haplogroup profiles discussed above: haplogroups F and B have higher frequencies in populations from the south (or of southern origin) than those from the north (or of northern origin) (Yao et al. 2002a).”
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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2018, 04:13:19 PM »
What about the progression from European in 500 BC, then to half-way European in 1 AD?



Well that could still mean not all of them died in 500BC, some assimilated 
It’s a 20 year old study I think there must be conflicting updates like the most recent one 2003 which is still pretty old

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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2018, 07:40:54 PM »


the lost tribe of Israel..    are from Turkish origin... Abraham came from turkey.. one of the lost tribes settled in the islands of the east..

in the end times..... the Israelites of ASia will know rediscover who they are..

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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2018, 08:30:42 PM »


the lost tribe of Israel..    are from Turkish origin... Abraham came from turkey.. one of the lost tribes settled in the islands of the east..

in the end times..... the Israelites of ASia will know rediscover who they are..

They are a small and insignificant number.
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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 12:31:22 PM »
I've seen the same thread by a Filipino member. @PimpMasterPro in EB88 just new year.

Not so many responses yet though.

But before we discuss further, I guess we should know what "Stan" ـستان means in Persian,
as those "-Stan" / "-Istan" countries are not that far away from China in the western part.
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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 02:16:36 PM »
Black people in America were enslaved for a few hundred years and fought for their own freedom against whites when they were outnumbered and outgunned yet they ultimately triumphed.  The Chinese let the Mongols and Manchus raped their virgins and lorded over them for 700 years when they made up the majority like kebab sheep.  I find it funny when I visit Sotheby´s auctions and see Chinese art from Yuan and Qing go for crazy prices.  The reason given to me for the high price is that the Chinese want to buy back their "cultural history" from the West and I just have to laugh.  Talk about cultural appropriation.  It would be like Oprah bidding on auctions for the clothes and furniture of a Scots-Irish Missouri plantation owner and claiming these artifacts as ancestral heritage.

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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2018, 12:35:22 AM »
Black people in America were enslaved for a few hundred years and fought for their own freedom against whites when they were outnumbered and outgunned yet they ultimately triumphed.  The Chinese let the Mongols and Manchus raped their virgins and lorded over them for 700 years when they made up the majority like kebab sheep.  I find it funny when I visit Sotheby´s auctions and see Chinese art from Yuan and Qing go for crazy prices.  The reason given to me for the high price is that the Chinese want to buy back their "cultural history" from the West and I just have to laugh.  Talk about cultural appropriation.  It would be like Oprah bidding on auctions for the clothes and furniture of a Scots-Irish Missouri plantation owner and claiming these artifacts as ancestral heritage.

The Turanian, Uighur Empire, Mongol Empire, Manchu Empire, and Japan Empire conquered China.

Yes. It is like the Native Australian claim that Sydney was founded by them, and

Like the Native Americans claim that they built New York.

And like claiming Moskva was built by the Native Altaic - Uralic peoples.
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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2018, 10:52:08 AM »
with the exception of Taiwan (but you can argue that early growth were engineered by Japan), the richest Chinese outposts were all founded by foreigners: Singapore (British), Hong Kong (British), Macau (Portuguese, seriously the Chinese lost to tiny Portugal).  Much of Shanghai were built by white settlers in the 19th and 20th century.  Yet, Chinese want to be called Jews of Asia.  Talk about delusion.

The Turanian, Uighur Empire, Mongol Empire, Manchu Empire, and Japan Empire conquered China.

Yes. It is like the Native Australian claim that Sydney was founded by them, and

Like the Native Americans claim that they built New York.

And like claiming Moskva was built by the Native Altaic - Uralic peoples.

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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2018, 12:48:11 PM »
with the exception of Taiwan (but you can argue that early growth were engineered by Japan), the richest Chinese outposts were all founded by foreigners: Singapore (British), Hong Kong (British), Macau (Portuguese, seriously the Chinese lost to tiny Portugal).  Much of Shanghai were built by white settlers in the 19th and 20th century.  Yet, Chinese want to be called Jews of Asia.  Talk about delusion.

Well no because those are all coastal ports so it's their geography to be honest
Commerce and trade isn't really profitable in landlocked areas

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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2018, 07:58:13 PM »
Well no because those are all coastal ports so it's their geography to be honest
Commerce and trade isn't really profitable in landlocked areas


It can be if you got the right infrastructure. Railroads made Chicago.
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Re: Chinese civilization founded by Caucasians
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2018, 04:01:42 AM »

It can be if you got the right infrastructure. Railroads made Chicago.

Fair but still
Chicago is like Chongqing
It’s not as remarkable as the coastal cities like New York and San Francisco, Los Angeles etc

 
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