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if chinese came here with a wife it means they will identify as hoa people not kinh, their offsprings will be upper class female from rich family won't touch viets to assimilate, in the hoa pic they don't have many b carriers so no it's not from them, tai isn't solely r9f dominant, they got big distribution of m and b as well, in burma there is a huge number of m, which one belongs to who?

lowlands Bamar ethnic - M dominant - due to assimilation of Mon ethnic
highlands Karen ethnic - R9F dominant - living near Thailand border.
Burmese as a whole - R9F dominant
Hoa ethnic in Vietnam- R9F dominant
Kinh ethnic - M dominant
Genes spread from dominant place to less dominant place.
R9F doesn't come from Vietnam due to uneven distribution accross the nation and doesn't follow a North South cline in decreased fequency. M is native to Vietnam as its more dominant in Vietnam than South China, dominant in both Northern and Central Vietnam and has decreased frequency in Southern Vietnam.
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General Discussion / Re: First Vietnamese Mrs World (Jennifer Le) crowned 2019
« Last post by truekinhethnic on Today at 02:49:00 AM »
if chinese came here with a wife it means they will identify as hoa people not kinh, their offsprings will be upper class female from rich family won't touch viets to assimilate, in the hoa pic they don't have many b carriers so no it's not from them, tai isn't solely r9f dominant, they got big distribution of m and b as well, in burma there is a huge number of m, which one belongs to who?
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History / Re: Does it make sense to revolt AFTER '1000' years of occupation?
« Last post by truekinhethnic on Today at 02:07:26 AM »
Yes, please  :D
when can we meet? i want to be your sexual slave in dungeon where you can have your way with me and abuse my peanuts
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o. m. f. g this is mtdna, how can more prevalence of d be from chinese when it's MEN who came to cochin mix with VIET women, there is no such thing as chinese female assimilated to kinh,
Find another explaination for higher frequency of D haplogroup in Saigon than in Ha Noi and Da Nang if D haplogroup doesn't come from migrants from China or other northern places. D are dominant in Manchuria, Korea and Japan, not Cambodia. If only men came to Cochin mix with Viet women then why dont Viet women across the nation have the same mtdna lineages? Because some of these men brought their families with them.

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how can m be a muong marker if tay and nung also got similar number of carriers as kinh, wtf are these explanations
Because R9F is dominant in Tai and Burmese speaking areas like Thailand, Burma and South China, not M. Gosh. R9F is equally dominant to M in urban centers of Northern Vietnam but not highlands Northern Vietnam. Tay and Nung ethnics are not proper Tai.

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also explain how b became higher when it's from hmong
B are those who fled from Mongol invasions
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History / Re: Does it make sense to revolt AFTER '1000' years of occupation?
« Last post by truekinhethnic on Today at 02:00:15 AM »
The study used samples from Saigon Vietnamese though. Saigon Vietnamese have the least Muong Vietic ancestry reflected by the lowest frequency of M haplogroup in comparision to other Kinh, Tay, Nung populations. Northern Viet have more Muong Chut Tho ancestry. That autosomal study is funded by China who drew up 9 dash lines in their own map, which means it contains political agenda. Vietnamese mtDNA study you cited were done by independent Western scientists
tai have the same propotion of m carriers as kinh, where are you getting it's a muong marker? wtf? the point is you enslaved tai kid the profile of southern kinh overlap with chinese TAI when it shouldn't happen at all, what's the point of faking this when tai aren't han people, who cares if they and kinh related
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Love and relationship / Re: Things do you do to impress your love
« Last post by Tequilas on Today at 01:58:51 AM »
auwww OJ and mimosa united again how cute! Two quacs equals one unholy phuc.
geez
I haven't heard of them but usually unholed cakes the most  -shrug
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History / Re: Does it make sense to revolt AFTER '1000' years of occupation?
« Last post by truekinhethnic on Today at 01:50:40 AM »

am i really? or is it the other way? isn't it funny how our relationship perfectly mirror that of our people's history? i am from the vietic masterrace ruled over you stinky tais, before we even knew of this whole vietic-tai thing it was ingrained into your dna that you would see me as your superior, a cool inspirational gentleman to be imititated. i am the BOSS to which you were the follower
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of course it make perfect sense tai and northern viet are similar because they're same root, you don't even know which marker belong to who when the genetic profile all look the same between tay-nung-kinh so i don't know what you're talking about r9f
look here tai kid ALL GENETIC show tai and kinh the same

The study used samples from Saigon Vietnamese though. Saigon Vietnamese have the least Muong Vietic ancestry reflected by the lowest frequency of M haplogroup in comparision to other Kinh, Tay, Nung populations. Northern Viet have more Muong Chut Tho ancestry. That autosomal study is funded by China who drew up 9 dash lines in their own map, which means it contains political agenda. Vietnamese mtDNA study you cited were done by independent Western scientists
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History / Re: Does it make sense to revolt AFTER '1000' years of occupation?
« Last post by truekinhethnic on Today at 01:38:20 AM »
Mon Khmer have been invaded, dominated and r-aped by Tai speakers in Thailand and Laos after 10th century. Mon is a dying language. Somehow you say its the opposite in Vietnam when Vietnam is much closer to Tai speaking areas like Guangxi. Look at phenos, Muong Chut Tho looks are equally or more dominant in Northern Vietnam than Tai. Northern Viets (especially in urban centers like Ha Noi) are closer to Tay ethnic and Tai speaking population than Central and Southern Viets to Tay ethnic, which makes perfect sense. Central Vietnamese dont native Tai ancestry and both Central and Southern Vietnamese have higher frequency of B (B4 as the major lineage), which can be found more in Hmong populations. Nung and Tay ethnics could have started off as Muong polities but later got assimilated by Tai speaking ethnics R9F just like how Khmer women got butt loved by Tai speakers to form a nation called Thailand R9F + B5. Khmer mtDNA are B5 dominant. Khmer have many ethnics assimilated as well since they started off as an empire.

Also i dont know how that n=399 represent the average Kinh Vietnamese because when you add all Kinh individuals, it would total more than 399 individuals and if you add Saigon, Da Nang, Ha Noi and Hai Phong altogether then it would still be less than 399 so i dont know who are these 399 Kinh.
can you understand the difference between being a REFUGEE running away from china and an organised martial invasion?
tai migration was just a flight for safety to anywhere they can find, if they go to tonkin can you see that rrd delta is already an established STRONGHOLD? how they can take over? now look where laos and thailand is comapred to ANGKOR which is heart of khmer empire, they are far away from there have time to settle and build up their society then conquer mon-khmers, of course it make perfect sense tai and northern viet are similar because they're same root, you don't even know which marker belong to who when the genetic profile all look the same between tay-nung-kinh so i don't know what you're talking about r9f
look here tai kid ALL GENETIC show tai and kinh the same


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General Discussion / Re: First Vietnamese Mrs World (Jennifer Le) crowned 2019
« Last post by truekinhethnic on Today at 01:15:12 AM »
It makes sense that hcmc kinh in SOUTHERN VIETNAM got less northern genes than NORTHERN VIETNAM ethnic minorities. Many of Northern Vietnam minorities are migrants from Southern China to Vietnam after 10th century. The latest one are Hmong in the 18th century. Gosh. However Saigon Vietnamese got more D than Ha Noi Vietnamese and have the least M (Muong ethnic related) haplogroup. Muong phenotypes are more dominant in Northern and Central Vietnam than in Southern Vietnam. Why do Sai Gon have the highest concentration of D haplogroup instead of Ha Noi must be due to it being an economic and trading hub of Vietnam since French colonial time and probably refugees from China during Sino Japan wars. Even Mongol invasion remnants are still evident in Southern Vietnam to day.
o. m. f. g this is mtdna, how can more prevalence of d be from chinese when it's MEN who came to cochin mix with VIET women, there is no such thing as chinese female assimilated to kinh, how can m be a muong marker if tay and nung also got similar number of carriers as kinh, wtf are these explanations, also explain how b became higher when it's from hmong
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