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Title: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Gāokējì on May 16, 2019, 06:06:07 PM
I typed in Vietnamese and this is what I got.

(https://t3.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/44/00/76/500_F_44007668_NoRCowBbINFFSoAfJnRXEvCUlCkjQeXd.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Gāokējì on May 16, 2019, 06:11:48 PM
(http://authoritynutrition.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/asian-woman-eating-sushi.jpg)

Same thing here.  Would you consider this Vietnamese, Hoa, or Chinese?  I typed in Chinese.
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Rude Boy on May 16, 2019, 06:31:58 PM
The second one is clearly Chinese. Narrow lips is northern feature.

The first one looks more SEA shifted on the lower part of her face. Somehow her eyeshape and thin eyebrows give me some sinid vibe. And her jawline is not common among Vietnamese people. I don't think she could represent the average Vietnamese you see on the streets of Vietnam.
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Gāokējì on May 16, 2019, 08:12:47 PM
The woman you classified as Chinese doesn't have narrow lips, she has full lips.  In fact if you observe the ratio of the lips to width of jaw they match.  But I don't think full lips necessarily make the defining phenotype of a Chinese.  I believe it's the eyes.  The eyes of the pregnant woman look Japanese.
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: SailorNeptune on May 16, 2019, 08:18:17 PM
first looks Cantonese, second looks Northern Chinese
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Gāokējì on May 16, 2019, 08:38:42 PM
I discovered the second photo was only one of a selected photo set.  Artificial intelligence helped me in this search.  As you can see by the photo in the article used it is the same person.

mamiverse.com/the-origin-of-sushi-75400/

The article lists Mekong river as the origin place of sushi right before we know sushi as such.
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: gaden on May 17, 2019, 09:11:06 AM
They both look Vietnamese to me. 

The first person looks Northern Vietnamese with the square face and flat nose.

(https://fscomps.fotosearch.com/compc/ASI/ASI001/vietnam-near-hanoi-vietnamese-woman-picture__ai01044.jpg)

The second looks Chinese mix.  Although she looks like Toc Tien.

(https://znews-photo.zadn.vn/w860/Uploaded/wyhktpu/2016_10_03/Picture5_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: SailorNeptune on May 17, 2019, 12:29:20 PM
The first girl remind me of my friend's ex, who is a Vietnamese chick from the north.
(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34193772_1934798456544114_5413450554531643392_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=4950d8aba8163ec19a594ebaabf4b555&oe=5D62B4BE)
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Rude Boy on May 17, 2019, 01:58:11 PM
The first girl remind me of my friend's ex, who is a Vietnamese chick from the north.
(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34193772_1934798456544114_5413450554531643392_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=4950d8aba8163ec19a594ebaabf4b555&oe=5D62B4BE)
The girl has quite an Austronesian nose.
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2wclhj4.jpg)
(http://i67.tinypic.com/349314p.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Selurong on May 17, 2019, 02:56:32 PM
The girl has quite an Austronesian nose.
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2wclhj4.jpg)
(http://i67.tinypic.com/349314p.jpg)
Australasian nose? LOL NO. Philippine President, Duterte, has a Chinese Grandfather.

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Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Rude Boy on May 17, 2019, 03:01:44 PM
Australasian nose? LOL NO. Philippine President, Duterte, has a Chinese Grandfather.
Southern Chinese has partial Austronesian ancestry. Do you think Duterte's nose is typical for all Chinese?
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Selurong on May 17, 2019, 03:09:47 PM
Southern Chinese has partial Austronesian ancestry. Do you think Duterte's nose is typical for all Chinese?
I don't know but the "Classical" unmixed Austronesian looks are these...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190517/31012f67477d853bbe91427ed8a3728e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190517/c01826043070838cb461f62f6e7017a0.jpg)

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Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Rude Boy on May 17, 2019, 03:20:07 PM
This Hong Kong guy has Duterte nose as well

(http://i66.tinypic.com/nof0qd.png)
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2wclhj4.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjeZ9C9ywHM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjeZ9C9ywHM)
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: SailorNeptune on May 17, 2019, 03:26:07 PM
What is a Vietnamese nose?? -shrug
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: SailorNeptune on May 17, 2019, 03:26:38 PM
I don't know but the "Classical" unmixed Austronesian looks are these...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190517/31012f67477d853bbe91427ed8a3728e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190517/c01826043070838cb461f62f6e7017a0.jpg)

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I know Filipinos that look like that.
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Selurong on May 17, 2019, 04:00:47 PM
This Hong Kong guy has Duterte nose as well

(http://i66.tinypic.com/nof0qd.png)
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2wclhj4.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjeZ9C9ywHM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjeZ9C9ywHM)
I don't know about the Chinese since they have diverse looks too.

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Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Selurong on May 17, 2019, 04:02:01 PM
What is a Vietnamese nose?? -shrug
I am not qualified to say what a Vietnanemese nose looks like since I don't live in Vietnam but from the few Vietnamese acquaintances I know, you have sharp looking noses.

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Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Gāokējì on May 17, 2019, 05:48:39 PM
I am not qualified to say what a Vietnanemese nose looks like since I don't live in Vietnam but from the few Vietnamese acquaintances I know, you have sharp looking noses.

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Wouldn't you agree that Vietnamese have Japanese looking eyes.  I don't care about the nose.  After all it is just the nose.  But the eyes I do care.  I quite identify with a person when I see that they have eyes like mine but if they have different looking eyes then I can't quite identify with them.
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Selurong on May 17, 2019, 06:16:27 PM
Wouldn't you agree that Vietnamese have Japanese looking eyes.  I don't care about the nose.  After all it is just the nose.  But the eyes I do care.  I quite identify with a person when I see that they have eyes like mine but if they have different looking eyes then I can't quite identify with them.
Vietnamese have an intermediate look between the Japanese eyes and the Malay eyes.

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Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: AnNamMit on May 17, 2019, 09:37:39 PM
Not every Chinese out there looking like NorthEast Asian.

Who is Chinese and Vietnamese here?

(https://image.thanhnien.vn/665/uploaded/hoangquynh/2019_05_17/tranvanthao-nvcc_ttzz.jpg)

(https://image.thanhnien.vn/500/uploaded/hoangquynh/2019_05_17/truongdinhhoang-namtrung_jpic.jpg)

(https://image.thanhnien.vn/500/uploaded/hoangquynh/2019_05_17/tranvanthao1-namtrung_fxdk.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: on May 17, 2019, 09:41:52 PM
it depends on which Vietnamese you are talking about.  Everyone knows that Asia is diverse genetically.  Then the Chinese came on the internet and resurrected Nazi ideology and push for this one-ethnic-one-look maxim which is as scientific as the racial purity of the bacteria culture inside my anus.  I mean it even sounds like one-belt-one-road.

Vietnamese have an intermediate look between the Japanese eyes and the Malay eyes.

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Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Selurong on May 17, 2019, 10:32:57 PM
it depends on which Vietnamese you are talking about.  Everyone knows that Asia is diverse genetically.  Then the Chinese came on the internet and resurrected Nazi ideology and push for this one-ethnic-one-look maxim which is as scientific as the racial purity of the bacteria culture inside my anus.  I mean it even sounds like one-belt-one-road.
Yeah Vietnamese are diverse looking and I honestly don't know the average Vietnamese looks since I've only encountered quite a few.

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Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: on May 17, 2019, 10:40:09 PM
The same is true for Pinoys.  There isn´t one Pinoy look.  Genetic influence is fluid while culture is monolithic.  Identity is mainly cultural while appearance of any people is tied to all the interactions in history.  Only the Chinese are dumb enough to assume their often invaded and conquered "nation" is immune to change like a vagina being mass raped but remains virginal and dignified.

Yeah Vietnamese are diverse looking and I honestly don't know the average Vietnamese looks since I've only encountered quite a few.

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Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Selurong on May 17, 2019, 10:46:49 PM
The same is true for Pinoys.  There isn´t one Pinoy look.  Genetic influence is fluid while culture is monolithic.  Identity is mainly cultural while appearance of any people is tied to all the interactions in history.  Only the Chinese are dumb enough to assume their often invaded and conquered "nation" is immune to change like a vagina being mass raped but remains virginal and dignified.
The Chinese are so stuck up in their own ass they fail to think critically, as you can see by our beloved Chinese poster here who is even defending public defecation and mass internet censorship.

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Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: SailorNeptune on May 18, 2019, 01:17:20 PM
Ewww gross! We have public defecation in SF  (homeless population).  There is an actual poop map, people are becoming more barbaric and uncultured.
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Gāokējì on May 18, 2019, 04:33:55 PM
it depends on which Vietnamese you are talking about.  Everyone knows that Asia is diverse genetically.  Then the Chinese came on the internet and resurrected Nazi ideology and push for this one-ethnic-one-look maxim which is as scientific as the racial purity of the bacteria culture inside my anus.  I mean it even sounds like one-belt-one-road.

I don't think you should be giving analogies that don't make any sense.  It makes for very difficult comparisons which don't contribute in any way but put into question just how limited your ability is to explain things properly.  But on the off chance that you might be trying to come across as entertaining and humorous then by all means continue doing that.
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Gāokējì on May 18, 2019, 04:44:24 PM
I mean he might have said anything along the lines of

"Genetic diversity is something that Chinese don't accept given that a nation as populous as China only contains 56 different ethnicities as opposed to the thousands of species contained on this God blessed planet."

or

"A one ethnic one phenotype correspondence is hardly possible, because it is never wanted, let alone its scientific impossibility.  The extent of what people can tolerate when it comes to integrating like mindedness is already exhibited by the sparse number of countries signing on to cooperate on global scale level projects like one belt one road."
Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Selurong on May 18, 2019, 07:52:54 PM
I mean he might have said anything along the lines of

"Genetic diversity is something that Chinese don't accept given that a nation as populous as China only contains 56 different ethnicities as opposed to the thousands of species contained on this God blessed planet."

or

"A one ethnic one phenotype correspondence is hardly possible, because it is never wanted, let alone its scientific impossibility.  The extent of what people can tolerate when it comes to integrating like mindedness is already exhibited by the sparse number of countries signing on to cooperate on global scale level projects like one belt one road."
It's good if those 56 ethnic groups are proportional amidst the whole nation like in Brazil, the USA, India or even the Philippines but in China, 92% are Han and the remaining 8% shared by the remaining 55 ethnic groups. That's not a very diverse demographic proportion wise.

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Title: Re: Is this phenotype Vietnamese? Hoa or Chinese?
Post by: Gāokējì on May 18, 2019, 10:13:06 PM
It's good if those 56 ethnic groups are proportional amidst the whole nation like in Brazil, the USA, India or even the Philippines but in China, 92% are Han and the remaining 8% shared by the remaining 55 ethnic groups. That's not a very diverse demographic proportion wise.

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That's exactly what he should have said.  He should have said the Chinese don't believe in genetic diversity because the populations are so disproportionate than to emphasize how gut fauna persists in diversity regardless of belief.