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Offline UNIFY(하나로 하다)

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Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« on: October 27, 2015, 07:55:08 AM »
Yes, it's provocative, but it's the simple truth. I've met some pinoy's and they are more open minded and westernized than viets.
Why does koreans prefer travelling to the Phillipines than Vietnam? Vietnam share many culture similarities than koreans, but still they prefer going to an asian country that doesn't have so much in common with them. The answer is simple: Pinoy's can behave themselves and have in some degree better manners than viets.

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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2015, 08:03:27 AM »
Viets have strong cultural traditions and identity. We are quite Asian, and that's ok in my book.

As for manners, I'm not sure what you mean.

I've read reports on street vendors trying to haggle and cheat tourists in VN. That's not good.
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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2015, 08:05:51 AM »
Yes, it's provocative, but it's the simple truth. I've met some pinoy's and they are more open minded and westernized than viets.
Why does koreans prefer travelling to the Phillipines than Vietnam? Vietnam share many culture similarities than koreans, but still they prefer going to an asian country that doesn't have so much in common with them....

To learn English...and people are generally nice..maybe they want to not experience cynical sinosphereic attitudes that they are used to, when on vacation.

Same culture type plays into why Vietnam is #1 destination to find wives for koreans.

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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2015, 08:06:35 AM »
Viets have strong cultural traditions and identity. We are quite Asian, and that's ok in my book.

Nothing wrong about that, but when tourist numbers are dropping because of viets cheating on tourists, then it's a problem. Because of our damn money obsessions.

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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2015, 08:08:28 AM »
Nothing wrong about that, but when tourist numbers are dropping because of viets cheating on tourists, then it's a problem. Because of our damn money obsessions.


Those cheating street vendors are a problem.
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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2015, 08:11:20 AM »

Those cheating street vendors are a problem.


One of the many backsides of our ''culture''. And I understand that Vietnam is not a nr.1 industrialized country, hence industrialized. But I don't think that is a major factor in our money obsession, were we break our good morales to get cash.

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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2015, 08:12:34 AM »
Nothing wrong about that, but when tourist numbers are dropping because of viets cheating on tourists, then it's a problem. Because of our damn money obsessions.

Well that would be a turnoff for western tourists as well.

Why doesn't Vietnam try to attract tourists from other sea nations as well. You could target wealthy malaysians, singaporeans, thai, Filipinos who would normally go to hk....take advantage of the recent anti-china sentiment in sea

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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2015, 08:18:34 AM »
Too much self-interest,
no collective interest for the goodness of the whole,
inability to look ahead,
no leadership

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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2015, 08:20:03 AM »
One of the many backsides of our ''culture''. And I understand that Vietnam is not a nr.1 industrialized country, hence industrialized. But I don't think that is a major factor in our money obsession, were we break our good morales to get cash.


VN needs to educate these street vendors and provide opportunities to redirect their greediness to something more productive. They would make a killing as investment bankers.
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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2015, 08:24:16 AM »
Too much self-interest,
no collective interest for the goodness of the whole,
inability to look ahead,
no leadership

You nailed it, Gadenski.

Call me pessimistic, but I don't think Vietnam will get industrialized or wealthy for that matter. I hear all those economic experts predicting Vietnam will have a large economy in 2050. A lot of things can happened 35 years from now. It's a bigger chance that Vietnam's economy will collapse due to high inflation and corruption, then becoming Korea.

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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2015, 08:35:30 AM »
You nailed it, Gadenski.

Call me pessimistic, but I don't think Vietnam will get industrialized or wealthy for that matter. I hear all those economic experts predicting Vietnam will have a large economy in 2050. A lot of things can happened 35 years from now. It's a bigger chance that Vietnam's economy will collapse due to high inflation and corruption, then becoming Korea.


I think greed, combined with ambition, can be a potent force for development. I would worry if they were beggars, but they are not. They are doing everything they can to sclove a living and survive. There is some promise there. When conditions are ripe, they will take advantage of it.
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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2015, 08:39:25 AM »
A Japanese working in Vietnam summed it up nicely,

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This picture says it all.


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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2015, 08:42:51 AM »

I think greed, combined with ambition, can be a potent force for development. I would worry if they were beggars, but they are not. They are doing everything they can to sclove a living and survive. There is some promise there. When conditions are ripe, they will take advantage of it.


Greed can drive development but only for the few individuals.  It's not good hoard and not spread the wealth around.

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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2015, 08:43:33 AM »
A Japanese working in Vietnam summed it up nicely,

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This picture says it all.



What's happening in this picture??

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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2015, 08:54:12 AM »
What's happening in this picture??

I'm not sure.  I think it's just a picture to demonstrate how Vietnamese goes about in serving their own interest.  Could be just fighting in line for some product.

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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2015, 08:57:35 AM »
I'm not sure.  I think it's just a picture to demonstrate how Vietnamese goes about in serving their own interest.  Could be just fighting in line for some product.

The same thing happens in America during black friday

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Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2015, 08:58:20 AM »
But people do that in all developing countries

You can't expect people from developing countries to act like they are from developed countries

But then you do get exceptions like Thailand who are known to be really polite. But they are very spiritual / Buddhist orientated compared to say, Vietnam, Colombia, Brazil or Indonesia etc
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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2015, 09:55:00 AM »
Reasons to explain why Filipinos might be more "civilised":

1. Philippines never struggled through wartime devastation like Vietnam did between 1950s-70s

2. Thus, Filipino people never had to adopt a selfish and grasping attitude in order to survive.

3. Philippines has always been relatively wealthier than Vietnam (due to US investment?)

https://www.google.co.uk/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gdp_pcap_cd&idim=country:PHL:IDN:VNM&hl=en&dl=en#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_pcap_cd&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:PHL:VNM&ifdim=region&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false
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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2015, 09:57:09 AM »
US imposed economic and trade embargo on Vietnam up until 1997.
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Re: Vietnamese are more backwards than Pinoy's
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2015, 10:01:13 AM »
The problem goes beyond street vendors. Just take a look at the security guards at the airport. They hassle anyone who don't put some cash in their passport. Greed and corruption is a multifaceted problem in Vietnam.

 
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