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Bạch Đằng năm 938
« on: June 18, 2019, 04:08:13 PM »
Just thought it's cool to share this picture..



History said that in 939 Ngo Quyen placed iron-tipped spikes in the Bạch Đằng river to trap the larger invading fleet at low tide so they can't go back out to sea.

While the much smaller vessels can safely navigate between those spikes, larger ships just tip over at low tide, thus making it's hard for anyone to fight out of a tilted ship as depicted.

But it's not the case for those on smaller vessels!


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Re: Bạch Đằng năm 938
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2019, 06:04:01 PM »
When it comes to life and death, real life Viet IQ reaches genotypic level.  When it comes to building a more efficient mass transportation system like the Saigon metro, Viet IQ stops working.  I call this phenomenon the Viet Poker Paradox.  Good at taking chances but poor as phuck in the long run.

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Re: Bạch Đằng năm 938
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2019, 07:40:16 PM »
Those spikes didn't have to pierce the ship hull, just making it unbalance enough to stand on..that's the purpose!

Mall looks good..


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Re: Bạch Đằng năm 938
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2019, 05:34:58 PM »
According to Chinese account, that didn't happen.

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Đại Cồ Việt got the victory and Song army had to retreat back to China. Most of Chinese historical records about the early of campaign were quite clear, but the records of loss was very vague. Xu Zizhi Tongjian records written by Li Tao demonstrate about the all commander and generals from all ranks were faced the punishment because of war loss. Most of them were executed and some others were demoted to lower ranks, some were killed in the battle field or missing. Consequently, Song dynasty accepted the continuity of Vietnamese independence and recognised Lê Hoàn as the emperor of Đại Cồ Việt. Both nation started to renormalise the diplomatic relation. Đại Cồ Việt accepted to pay tribute once in two year to Song to gain peaceful relation.[4]


What do you have to say Mr. @Rude Boy ?  The history book was written by Bi Yuan (畢沅) (1730-1797).  So that event didn't happen?

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Re: Bạch Đằng năm 938
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2019, 09:45:31 AM »
According to Chinese account, that didn't happen.

What do you have to say Mr. @Rude Boy ?  The history book was written by Bi Yuan (畢沅) (1730-1797).  So that event didn't happen?

The original topic is Bang Dang battle in 938. What you quoted is a conflict between Le Hoan army vs Song Guangxi army in 981.

Le Hoan's tomb in Ninh Binh



His resting place looks nicer with lush environment












 

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