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Offline Gāokējì

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Re: Do you Phillipinos want to be Vietnamese?
« Reply #60 on: July 01, 2019, 05:54:14 PM »
This pale skin slitty eyed troll is only bad azz in his mom´s kitchen.  I bet he can´t even bench my GF´s pomeranian.  :D :D

I think you two butt buddies are projecting badly.  Going head to head with a Chinese doesn't mean typing comments that don't make sense it means literally getting into a fist fight with one.  I'm sorry but if I got down to it the both of you would cry uncle before 30 seconds is up.

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Re: Do you Phillipinos want to be Vietnamese?
« Reply #61 on: July 01, 2019, 08:50:56 PM »
Just read Chinese history records, Vietnam was an seen as outer region full of barbarians and rebellious people. If the word "An" doesn't mean pacification then what is it? Tang empire also used names like Andong, Anxi, Anbei for their newly annexed regions. The word "An" alone doesn't carry any bad meaning but how the word "An" was first used to refer to Vietnam is pejorative. But from another point of view, An Nam does have a history of an independent kingdom (or history of rebellion in Chinese view) so when the Ming took over, they erased the name "An Nam" and replaced it with the name "Jiaozhi". Also AnNamMit is a name that only existed during French colonised Vietnam so i don't know why you like using that name.



Looks like you have no idea of even Vietnamese history. Whoever draw that picture is so wrong. Vietnam did not gain independent until 938 after Ngo Quyen defeated Nam Han. At that time Tang was already collapsed and broke into pieces which Nam Han was one piece. Before that North Vietnam was under Wu state during the three kingdom period. How the heck was Vietnam a protectorate under Tang? No where in the history record Vietnam was independent identity under Tang or before that three kingdom.

Oh, the name does not have to describe the surrounding situations. whoever came up with the name AnNam, we dont know what he had in mind, we only know by the pattern of the word use is that An Nam is not equal to Pacified South. Does any one here can find me few samples of singular of An or combination of An that are used negatively in Vietnamese?


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Re: Do you Phillipinos want to be Vietnamese?
« Reply #62 on: August 05, 2019, 12:10:24 AM »
Northern Vietnam was conquered during the Han Dynasty, therefore North Vietnam was not considered newly conquered state.
Strong sinicization didn't happen in Northern Vietnam during Han, Wu dynasty. And North Vietnam was often grouped with Canton region as Jiaozhi/Jiaozhou/Lingnan, not being a distinct region on its own. In Chinese worldview, Canton and North Vietnam were simply unsinicized far southern region full of barbarians - south of Nanling mountains, kinda like how Chinese used the term Baiyue to refer to all the ethnics living south of Yangtze river. The name An Nam was given to Northern Vietnam as a distinct region only in the Tang empire.

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Re: Do you Phillipinos want to be Vietnamese?
« Reply #63 on: August 05, 2019, 03:49:20 AM »
Central Vietnamese are the original Tang dynasty people.  They retained their Northern Chinese roots as they escaped China to Northern Vietnam.  Later on as the Laotians migrated southwards they escaped again and didn't get raped by incoming Laotians like Sailorneptune which now dominate northern Vietnam.

 
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