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I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« on: May 05, 2020, 04:53:38 PM »
I sold an item on eBay and the rodent's saying he didn't receive it.  The tracking said it's delivered.  Now the rodent complains to eBay to refund him. 

I've had about 10 cases like this where rodents claim to not receive their packages and eBay or Amazon would require for you to give them refund no matter what.


I'll tell you what...I'm going to send the rodent a bag of shwit to see if he receives it.

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2020, 07:37:18 PM »
I sold an item on eBay and the rodent's saying he didn't receive it.  The tracking said it's delivered.  Now the rodent complains to eBay to refund him. 

I've had about 10 cases like this where rodents claim to not receive their packages and eBay or Amazon would require for you to give them refund no matter what.


I'll tell you what...I'm going to send the rodent a bag of shwit to see if he receives it.

That's horrid isnt there a rating sytem in Amazon for sellers to rate buyer's grab has that, that way people will know who scammers are.
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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2020, 08:05:10 PM »
They do have ratings for buyers on eBay

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2020, 08:21:55 PM »
Try signature confirmation if the items are pricey. Otherwise, that is the price of doing business. Like operating a gas station, you have to deal with thieves and vandelizers.

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2020, 09:16:29 AM »
They do have ratings for buyers on eBay

Sellers are not allowed to give buyers negative or neutral ratings.  eBay believes that it will prevent buyers from making purchases if they have a low rating.


Here's what eBay have on 'protecting' or scamming the seller:
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Sellers aren't able to leave negative or neutral Feedback for buyers. That means sellers need other tools that will protect them against unfair treatment from buyers and bring those buyers to eBay's attention.

Here are some ways sellers and eBay are working together to protect sellers' reputations and promote a fair marketplace:

Sellers can add buyer requirements to their listings to prevent unwanted bidders
You can block buyers with too many policy violations, unpaid items, or who aren't registered with PayPal. This can help you dramatically reduce your number of unpaid items. To access this tool, go to My eBay > Account > Site Preferences > Buyer requirements.

Sellers can require buyers to pay right away
If you use Buy It Now, you can require buyers to pay you immediately using PayPal.

Sellers have an easy way to report problems with buyers
Sellers can use the seller reporting hub to report an unpaid item, Feedback extortion, or any other problem with a buyer. eBay investigates all reports and will remove any negative or neutral Feedback that's in violation of eBay policy.

We provide enhanced Feedback protection for unpaid items
In addition to removing Feedback left by buyers who don't respond to an unpaid item report, we also remove negative and neutral Feedback when there is a response but it's clear that the buyer didn't intend to complete the transaction (for example, if they bought the item elsewhere or had a family emergency).

We proactively look for Feedback abuse and take action against it
For example, eBay investigates buyers who leave positive Feedback but low Detailed Seller Ratings.


We remove Feedback from suspended buyers
Buyers who are suspended for Unpaid Items or other policy violations aren't allowed to leave negative or neutral Feedback. We remove all neutral or negative Feedback left by suspended buyers so it won't negatively affect sellers' reputations.

We educate buyers
For example, if there are problems with a purchase, we ask the buyer to contact the seller directly to try to work things out before leaving Feedback.


So, pretty much scam all you want, it will fatten our wallet.

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2020, 09:34:05 AM »
Here's what the scoundrel said:

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Buyer requested:  A refund

Comments:  This says it was delivered and never was delivered. I am not very happy with not receiving it and it saying I supposedly did. Nobody else at this location to take it so thats not something that happened either.


He's already knew that no one took it and knows what happened to the package already.  Why isn't he asking for refund instead of re-delivery or trying to find where the package is.


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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2020, 09:43:51 AM »
Try signature confirmation if the items are pricey. Otherwise, that is the price of doing business. Like operating a gas station, you have to deal with thieves and vandelizers.


I've had fraudsters doing the same thing with credit cards.  They complain to the credit card company that they didn't receive the item.  The credit card company would credit back the charges.  They pretty well knew that small business would not pursue a challenge and go to court because of court fees.

So pretty much thieves can have free cash any which way they want with this type of business scheme. 

I guess this is the price of doing business and you would have to price in your losses.  But the issue of ethics could open up a can of worms for the credit issuer because the system leaves open for criminals to use as an accessory for their activities.

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2020, 11:38:07 PM »
This happened to me only one time.  Usually, the buyers are overseas though.  I am surprised this happened to you so frequently.  Thieves tend to scam you for electronics.  Use FB marketplace for items high in demand.

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2020, 08:08:53 AM »
The only time I got scammed was from buying from overseas in China and Indonesia using Alibaba.  They did not deliver the goods then when I complain to Alibaba they say the sellers ran away.

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2020, 08:13:39 AM »
The only time I got scammed was from buying from overseas in China and Indonesia using Alibaba.  They did not deliver the goods then when I complain to Alibaba they say the sellers ran away.

Have you tried Prepaying? Maybe that will stop scammers from scamming you.
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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2020, 08:17:42 AM »
Have you tried Prepaying? Maybe that will stop scammers from scamming you.

Usually in these online platforms they buyer would pay in full then the product is shipped.

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2020, 08:20:32 AM »
Usually in these online platforms they buyer would pay in full then the product is shipped.

I use GCash, Credit Cards and Paymaya when I try Shopee or Facebook Marketplace. I saw some sellers have a Pay on Delivery option and some sellers have prepayment options.
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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2020, 08:26:00 AM »
I use GCash, Credit Cards and Paymaya when I try Shopee or Facebook Marketplace. I saw some sellers have a Pay on Delivery option and some sellers have prepayment options.


The pay on delivery option would be extremely risky.  The buyer can give hot checks and counterfeit cash.  Plus you won't get your money until 1-2 weeks later.  By then the scoundrel would make a getaway. 

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2020, 08:45:20 AM »

The pay on delivery option would be extremely risky.  The buyer can give hot checks and counterfeit cash.  Plus you won't get your money until 1-2 weeks later.  By then the scoundrel would make a getaway.

Go for Prepayment then.
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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2020, 08:49:14 AM »
Go for Prepayment then.


Isn't prepayment the same as buyer pays first before ship?

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2020, 08:51:37 AM »

Isn't prepayment the same as buyer pays first before ship?

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2020, 08:09:51 PM »
Tbh, I’ve been scammed by sellers on eBay so I support their strict policy on the sellers. I wonder if buying insurance on the package helps.

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2020, 11:35:50 PM »
Ebay has lost its edge.  Etsy sellers offer better service and cheaper price now for the things I like to buy. When there is something of value on ebay, there are a ton of shill bidders pushing up the price.  Also, most ebay sellers now price things so unrealistic (used items cost more than new MSRP) that they are open scams.  Ebay has to crack down on this problem or else the site is dead.

Tbh, I’ve been scammed by sellers on eBay so I support their strict policy on the sellers. I wonder if buying insurance on the package helps.

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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2020, 06:40:32 AM »
Ebay has lost its edge.  Etsy sellers offer better service and cheaper price now for the things I like to buy. When there is something of value on ebay, there are a ton of shill bidders pushing up the price.  Also, most ebay sellers now price things so unrealistic (used items cost more than new MSRP) that they are open scams.  Ebay has to crack down on this problem or else the site is dead.


Ebay is being out stripped by others like Amazon and here in the Philippines, there is massive competition from Southeast Asian E-commerce sites and even Facebook Marketplace.
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Re: I'm sick and tired of these rodents
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2020, 12:55:32 PM »
As a buyer, if you don´t get your item on aliexpress and file a dispute the Chinese will just close your account.  I think sellers have a better chance working with the Chinese.  For buyers, ebay and Amazon are better.

 
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