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cochinaboslol

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vn need to bring back chu nom
« on: July 30, 2020, 02:17:09 AM »
it's time for my viet people to go back to our root, our culture were cruelly taken away by whiteman france for the worse and now we left with ugly whiteman writing style, as long as my viets continue to use this writing mean we will always got legacy reminded us of got cucked by whiteman, it must be erased, reject the white and return to the yellow




teapot

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2020, 11:31:23 AM »
Chữ Nôm is based on Hanzi characters which contributed to the high illiteracy rate back then, and that's why they changed it. There are thousands of characters to memorize just to read at the basic level. Mandarin, for example, has more than 100,000 logograms, and beginning readers need to know about 3500 of them. With the alphabet system, there are only 26 letters to remember. Once the articulation of phonemes are learned, even a small child can read almost any word in the English dictionary.

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Catholic Portuguese were in Vietnam long before the French and the Portuguese Jesuit Francisco de Pina taught Alexandre de Rhodes how to speak Vietnamese while Alexandre was studying in Macau. The Romanized Vietnamese writing system is identical to the Portuguese: this is the same system. Searchers found the original documents dating from 17th Century at Lisbon Library and at Macau (Former Portuguese possession). Portuguese language was the Lingua Franca in South-East Asia.


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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2020, 01:47:19 PM »
Actually colonization made Vietnamese stronger. All those wars and fighting made us clever and smart.

We gave hope and inspiration to third worlders across the globe. The Angolian has the largest street named Ho Chi Minh, some of their soldiers named themselves Vietnam. If you go to Cuba, children are taught and sing about Vietnam. From Algeria Russia, Afganistan,Nepal to Venezuela.

When China fallen to the hands of nomadic barbarians. Proud Chinese flocked to us as the last Sinospheric civilization.

If we had lived in peace, left alone, we would be like the Montangard. Isolated, weak, backward, and not tested.  Even French and American have deep respect for Vietnamese people. Vietnam is THE ONLY COMMUNIST ally of the US. Think about that...

I don't understand where this inferiority complex came from. Most Vietnamese don't have it.

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2020, 05:26:29 PM »
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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
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teapot

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2020, 11:00:37 PM »
Actually colonization made Vietnamese stronger. All those wars and fighting made us clever and smart.

We gave hope and inspiration to third worlders across the globe. The Angolian has the largest street named Ho Chi Minh, some of their soldiers named themselves Vietnam. If you go to Cuba, children are taught and sing about Vietnam. From Algeria Russia, Afganistan,Nepal to Venezuela.

When China fallen to the hands of nomadic barbarians. Proud Chinese flocked to us as the last Sinospheric civilization.

If we had lived in peace, left alone, we would be like the Montangard. Isolated, weak, backward, and not tested.  Even French and American have deep respect for Vietnamese people. Vietnam is THE ONLY COMMUNIST ally of the US. Think about that...

I don't understand where this inferiority complex came from. Most Vietnamese don't have it.

May be that's the role VN destines to play. When a goal is achieved against an impossible odd, someone somewhere would get inspire. Think of the Spartans at Thermopylae.



A strong VN also benefits Cambodia. Historically, VN and Thailand counterbalance each other in the region with Cambodia being sandwiched in the middle. Today they're thriving as a culture and that's great.


cochinaboslol

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2020, 01:27:13 AM »
Chữ Nôm is based on Hanzi characters which contributed to the high illiteracy rate back then, and that's why they changed it. There are thousands of characters to memorize just to read at the basic level. Mandarin, for example, has more than 100,000 logograms, and beginning readers need to know about 3500 of them. With the alphabet system, there are only 26 letters to remember. Once the articulation of phonemes are learned, even a small child can read almost any word in the English dictionary.


if logo system were so bad why cn, tw, hk, jp all got higher literacy than vn? it got nothing to do with harder but lacked of education system in those time, whiteman promote it is part of campaign to cruelly separated my viet people from our culture made us follow theirs so it easier to brainwash+control population, i think also they scared of chinese and want to cut off vn from cn by wiped out all connection to our heroic big brother now made everyone forgot the beautiful relationship we both having

good thing for noms logo is if you typing chinese in computer it's much faster and convienient than english with alphabet need to write whole word, use capital, which i assumed is same for viets, why sticking with this ugly and inefficient system?

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2020, 01:44:56 AM »
Actually colonization made Vietnamese stronger. All those wars and fighting made us clever and smart.

We gave hope and inspiration to third worlders across the globe. The Angolian has the largest street named Ho Chi Minh, some of their soldiers named themselves Vietnam. If you go to Cuba, children are taught and sing about Vietnam. From Algeria Russia, Afganistan,Nepal to Venezuela.

When China fallen to the hands of nomadic barbarians. Proud Chinese flocked to us as the last Sinospheric civilization.

If we had lived in peace, left alone, we would be like the Montangard. Isolated, weak, backward, and not tested.  Even French and American have deep respect for Vietnamese people. Vietnam is THE ONLY COMMUNIST ally of the US. Think about that...

I don't understand where this inferiority complex came from. Most Vietnamese don't have it.
laos+cambodia were defacto viets land before whiteman, if they haven't came it will be dejure by now and no doubt also conquered thailand for superstate, vn will be regional power already with future superpower, instead my viet now stuck there with puny lands in middle of SEA surrounded by all these fil.thy savages SEAs, how the hell colonial made vn stronger?

idk where you got info vn is allied of us, vcp got 3 no policy include no ally with anyone but of course in secret is allied with beautiful chinese brother, usa just use for sweet talk idiot whiteman and get some free money or stuff like here but push came to shove vn will firmly on side of chinese against whiteman
https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/us-to-give-vietnam-another-coast-guard-cutter-amid-rising-tensions-in-south-china-sea-1.608059


look here you cochinabo POS, it's not about inferior complex but go back to my viets people root, we are the yellow so we following the yellow and reject the white ok? it's hard for flea picker like you to understand importance of true root because like i told you last time you are a fil.thy aboriginal from cochin, you don't care this is symbol of we got cucked because you don't belong with us so how could feel such emotion, your genetic never lie

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2020, 10:13:44 AM »
^

Notice I did not say anything about quoc ngu or chu nom.  I, however, did say your dislikes for quoc ngu is deeply rooted in inferiority complex.

Vietnamese people do not have inferiority complex when it comes to White people. Vietnamese can look at them in the eyes as our equals and invite them for tea and friendly chat








This is Vietnamese Ace, Nguyen Van Bay. He is a Nam bo from Long An Mekong region. You need to get this false idea of Southerners are Cham or Khmer out of your inferiority complex head. Ancient Vietnamese had laws forbidding Viet from marrying Cham or Khmer, and "northerners" aka Chinese forbidden from learning their language.

I already explained why colonization made Vietnam stronger.  We answered to it with pride and dignity. It it's your Catonese brothers who suffered from it, till this day. Because you bend backwards for the Han , the Japanese, and the whiteman. Vietnamese courageous defended our honor, that's why we have no regrets or hatred. Your action saperate us, not the white man. You are a docile loud mouth race. The day of Bam Viet are over, the modern Vietnamese are desedant of Lac Viet. We're not the same, buddy.

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2020, 10:27:33 AM »
^ whoops I mean the day of Nam Viet are over, not Bam Viet. Lmao.

Look at what people do, not what they've said. Look at Vietnam and US actions. If you do not understand, that's fine too. We don't need a Chinese like you to know what we do, it wouldn't be in our best interest. Lmao. Yhe more confused you are, the better. :)

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2020, 07:04:59 PM »
I did some research, and basically, to type fast they have to use the pinyin version of Chinese. AI would help out by filling in the rest or giving predictive suggestions. It's quick and easy but also cause many ppl to forget word characters when they have to write something out by hand. In modern time Mandarin is doable. In ancient time, nope.

The large keyboard isn't practical.




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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2020, 11:43:56 AM »
Chu Nom is pretty much Chinese characters with addition tweaks to fit Vietnamese language.  So, it's pretty much more complicated than Chinese characters.  The problem is no one will want to learn it and it will only stay in VN.

To be truly Vietnamese characters the writing will have to evolve from pictographs out of the Dong Son drums.  If early Vietnamese are isolated and has a strong central government then Vietnamese could develop their own independent writing system.  The central government will have to use some kind of record keeping method to collect taxes and take census. 

cochinaboslol

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2020, 11:02:05 PM »
^

Notice I did not say anything about quoc ngu or chu nom.  I, however, did say your dislikes for quoc ngu is deeply rooted in inferiority complex.

Vietnamese people do not have inferiority complex when it comes to White people. Vietnamese can look at them in the eyes as our equals and invite them for tea and friendly chat








This is Vietnamese Ace, Nguyen Van Bay. He is a Nam bo from Long An Mekong region. You need to get this false idea of Southerners are Cham or Khmer out of your inferiority complex head. Ancient Vietnamese had laws forbidding Viet from marrying Cham or Khmer, and "northerners" aka Chinese forbidden from learning their language.

I already explained why colonization made Vietnam stronger.  We answered to it with pride and dignity. It it's your Catonese brothers who suffered from it, till this day. Because you bend backwards for the Han , the Japanese, and the whiteman. Vietnamese courageous defended our honor, that's why we have no regrets or hatred. Your action saperate us, not the white man. You are a docile loud mouth race. The day of Bam Viet are over, the modern Vietnamese are desedant of Lac Viet. We're not the same, buddy.
let me get this straight, according to your armpit scratch iq you think colonial was great because now a bunch of third world savages and evil imperialist whiteman respected you? so just for some praise it's worth it to have puny useless country instead of huge mainland SEA under viets rule? is that correct? ARE YOU FUCCING MORON OR WHAT? holy sh.it this cochinabo flea picker made speech about inferior complex now showed off about foreigners praised him?

let be clear here, there is ZERO inferior complex, unlike armpit scratcher cochinabos race i don't care what whiteman or savages thinking my viet, respect no respect, good bad it's not my problem, this is made change not for external eye but release the cuck from within and re-vietified, if white man kidnap you give you slave name david and after you escaping you change back to minh mean you got inferior complex or you just revert back to your true root? like holy sh.it what a tree swinger race

where i told you all south viet are cochin aboriginals and it was we viet assimilated you? does everyone here look like cochinabo to you or there is many look EA too?


i said it clearly last time that my viet are proudly racist genocider, in our blood we despised all outsider and gleefully murdered your kinds pushed you into gulf of thailand, it was only from there whiteman set up cochin colony and assimilate you into kinh ethnic against our will so don't sit here talk what is viet ok you POS?

cochinaboslol

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2020, 11:05:32 PM »
I did some research, and basically, to type fast they have to use the pinyin version of Chinese. AI would help out by filling in the rest or giving predictive suggestions. It's quick and easy but also cause many ppl to forget word characters when they have to write something out by hand. In modern time Mandarin is doable. In ancient time, nope.

The large keyboard isn't practical.




everything in future will be machine base not many hand writings and even got refined speech to text to perfect level too so there is ZERO reason to not adopted noms

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2020, 11:16:17 PM »
Chu Nom is pretty much Chinese characters with addition tweaks to fit Vietnamese language.  So, it's pretty much more complicated than Chinese characters.  The problem is no one will want to learn it and it will only stay in VN.

To be truly Vietnamese characters the writing will have to evolve from pictographs out of the Dong Son drums.  If early Vietnamese are isolated and has a strong central government then Vietnamese could develop their own independent writing system.  The central government will have to use some kind of record keeping method to collect taxes and take census. 
how does it work?

dong son belong to tay-nung people, kinh ethnic is chinese but they living under my viet-muong and our system we chosen were noms so this what must be revert to

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2020, 04:35:35 AM »
let me get this straight, according to your armpit scratch iq you think colonial was great because now a bunch of third world savages and evil imperialist whiteman respected you? so just for some praise it's worth it to have puny useless country instead of huge mainland SEA under viets rule? is that correct? ARE YOU FUCCING MORON OR WHAT? holy sh.it this cochinabo flea picker made speech about inferior complex now showed off about foreigners praised him?

let be clear here, there is ZERO inferior complex, unlike armpit scratcher cochinabos race i don't care what whiteman or savages thinking my viet, respect no respect, good bad it's not my problem, this is made change not for external eye but release the cuck from within and re-vietified, if white man kidnap you give you slave name david and after you escaping you change back to minh mean you got inferior complex or you just revert back to your true root? like holy sh.it what a tree swinger race

where i told you all south viet are cochin aboriginals and it was we viet assimilated you? does everyone here look like cochinabo to you or there is many look EA too?


i said it clearly last time that my viet are proudly racist genocider, in our blood we despised all outsider and gleefully murdered your kinds pushed you into gulf of thailand, it was only from there whiteman set up cochin colony and assimilate you into kinh ethnic against our will so don't sit here talk what is viet ok you POS?

Holy smoke.

The whiteman got you good. Read what you wrote. Inferiority complex to the max duse. He lived inside your head. You are like those BLM blacks. Full of fear, hatred, and inferiority sentiments. Go cry more about the opium war and how you suffered in humiliation and shame under colonialism.

Like I've said,  Viet don't have this problem.  Colonialism doesn't bother us, not because ot is a good thing by itself, rather it is a good thing because we overcame it. Understand the difference my inferior assimilated Hoa friend.

Go teach hate of the whiteman and Viet to your Chinese and Cambodian liltle brother. They will love it. Viet? Not so much.



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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2020, 05:47:41 AM »
Wait..what? Ok, initial I didn't read what you have said.  I skimmed through it, had a good laugh, I though your writting was funny, like a hysterically monkey screaming in rage incoherently.

Now that I've  reread it. It is actually even funnier than I've initially thought.

Listen up, bud. The Khmer, Cham, and Chinese were Vietnamese historical enemies and seldom allies. For most of our history, we all tried to exterminate one another during the age of conquest. The Ming tried to exterminate us after the Ho dynasty collapsed. They burn book, mass murder, and imposed their costome on us.  If it wasn't for Le Loi and the Lam Son uprising, we would've been goners.

The Viet has been fighting the Cham, Chinese, and Khmer since ancient time. Sometimes even against all three at once in an triple alliance. Either we get rid of the Cham and Khmer, or they will help the Chinese to put an end to our existence. It was either kill or be killed.  Since we cannot coexisted, somebody has got to go. I am just glad it was them and not the other way around. Don't expect us to feel bad about it.  I am pretty sure ancient Vietnamese were jumping up and down in Joy when the Mongol enslaved the Chinese. And doubly happy when the Manchu made them lilte piggy tail  slaves out of the Ming. The poi t is, our enemy's destruction was seen as a good thing.

But in modern day, we are all friends. So calm your monkey azz down. The Cham, Hoa and Khmer are our brothers now, peacefully coexisting in Cho Lon  -kissyface Be a good lilte Hoa lilte brother and stop the hysteria and instigation. Thanks.  :)





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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2020, 12:19:09 AM »
Holy smoke.

The whiteman got you good. Read what you wrote. Inferiority complex to the max duse. He lived inside your head. You are like those BLM blacks. Full of fear, hatred, and inferiority sentiments. Go cry more about the opium war and how you suffered in humiliation and shame under colonialism.

Like I've said,  Viet don't have this problem.  Colonialism doesn't bother us, not because ot is a good thing by itself, rather it is a good thing because we overcame it. Understand the difference my inferior assimilated Hoa friend.

Go teach hate of the whiteman and Viet to your Chinese and Cambodian liltle brother. They will love it. Viet? Not so much.



which part if there is no colonial vn will got lands from east sea to thailand you did not understand? who tf care about overcome you freaking tree swinger cochinabo, like holy sh.it

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2020, 12:24:53 AM »
Wait..what? Ok, initial I didn't read what you have said.  I skimmed through it, had a good laugh, I though your writting was funny, like a hysterically monkey screaming in rage incoherently.

Now that I've  reread it. It is actually even funnier than I've initially thought.

Listen up, bud. The Khmer, Cham, and Chinese were Vietnamese historical enemies and seldom allies. For most of our history, we all tried to exterminate one another during the age of conquest. The Ming tried to exterminate us after the Ho dynasty collapsed. They burn book, mass murder, and imposed their costome on us.  If it wasn't for Le Loi and the Lam Son uprising, we would've been goners.

The Viet has been fighting the Cham, Chinese, and Khmer since ancient time. Sometimes even against all three at once in an triple alliance. Either we get rid of the Cham and Khmer, or they will help the Chinese to put an end to our existence. It was either kill or be killed.  Since we cannot coexisted, somebody has got to go. I am just glad it was them and not the other way around. Don't expect us to feel bad about it.  I am pretty sure ancient Vietnamese were jumping up and down in Joy when the Mongol enslaved the Chinese. And doubly happy when the Manchu made them lilte piggy tail  slaves out of the Ming. The poi t is, our enemy's destruction was seen as a good thing.

But in modern day, we are all friends. So calm your monkey azz down. The Cham, Hoa and Khmer are our brothers now, peacefully coexisting in Cho Lon  -kissyface Be a good lilte Hoa lilte brother and stop the hysteria and instigation. Thanks.  :)
i said thousand of time already to this fuccing thick skull aboriginal of cochin  race

VIET/KINH = CHINESE
vn always refer to as annam by chinese, viets always refer chinese as bac quoc and vn as nam quoc, everything were always north and south between them just like viet got north and south because it's the same civilisation you freaking armpit scratch moron, where the hell got enemy?

read some book ok you flea picker POS
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surviving members (tran loyalist) appealed to chinse for help
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ming though chinese enjoyed widspread favour among people of northern vietnam
this one about the ming invasion
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Imperial orders were sent to the Cheng-guo Duke Zhu Neng, regional commander of the force being sent on expedition to punish Annam. The orders read: "When the army enters Annam and takes prefectural cities, none of the registers, maps or gazetteers which are obtained are to be destroyed."
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after Zhu Yuanzhang became the first emperor of Ming dynasty, He also used the term "domain of manifested civility" (文獻之邦) to describe Vietnam.



srsly what a fuccing flea picker, tay son were planned invasion of cn to rescue our beautiful northern brother from manchu until the dude quang trung have die, what mean laughing?

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Re: vn need to bring back chu nom
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2020, 12:32:41 AM »
to all of you cochin aboriginal khmers and cham got assimilate by whiteman against our will we true viet don't accept your kind so don't listen this clown talk peaceful existent, you are savages not worthy to be viet


btw anyone know when were "kinh" word start to be use? nguyen dudes always called viets as hans so where this kinh came from? surely it's not whiteman france invented it to cut viet connection to chinese?

 
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